Bawa The On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (Recommended way to Navigate around Library) Spiritual Chat 443 -------- "On-line Version" ------ About Spiritual Chat 443 - Without An Outline - (as a Separate Web Page) Title of Spiritual Chat: --- Go To "On-line Version" (Without An Outline) Answering The Question "Who Am I", Is Answering the Question "Who Is God", Because In Truth They Are The "Same Question", Because In Truth, We Are One, If You Like, God and Man Are One, If You Like And: You Must Sit In The "Presence of God" And Let God Cure Himself of "you", And Let God Cure Himself of "your presence" of you living as if you are "separate from" God, as if you are "separate from" your brothers and sisters, and as if you are "separate from" the Creation of God, within God within you. And: You Must Hear The "Word of God" As It Comes Directly From God, Like The Rain As It Is Falling From The Sky, To Truly Benefit From The Life and Teaching of God For Your Age, Not force the Creation of God to sit in "your presence" and listen to "your words" coming directly from "your arrogance, karma, and illusion". coming directly from "your mind and desire". Date of Chat: August 07, 2008 Chat Between: Muhaiyaddeen Ummul Khair (Ral.) and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) 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Please come back later. Thank you - ============================================================== Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 443 Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. Wa 'alaykum al-salam wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu), My Dearest Loving Children - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Us, and with Him). About Spiritual Chat 443 Bawa. Here is Page 1 of 1 of the "Without An Outline" Version of the On-line Version of "Spiritual Chat 443", that is, of another beautiful Spiritual Chat between Our Dearest Loving Daughter Muhaiyaddeen Ummul Khair (Ral.) and Our Dearest Loving Son Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) for your reading, and hopefully for your sharing enjoyment. Bawa. To read a longer Outline & Summary Version of the same Spiritual Chat, that is, of "Spiritual Chat 443", one with an Outline and with a Summary of some Outline Topics, please click HERE, or above in the "Main Go To Menu", that is, Click on "With An Outline" under, Go To On-line Version. Thank you . Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen. Bawa. We have Also given this Sharing the following "Expanded Title", to better reflect the multiple focus of this sharing, at the feet of God for your age, First on the "outside" of you and then within you, all of which in truth is Now at the feet of your dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), within you, that is, Now within you as God/Bawa within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within you. Bawa. And now on the "outside" of you, as the feet of His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), that is, of His Children who have Now in truth "Become Him", which in truth is each of My Children living in this age, if you like, that is, if you truly Did The Work to Become Him, while "We" were still living in the world as Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.). Bawa. For Example, all of which is Now Our Dearest Loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), First on the "outside" of you and then within you, that is, As an Example of One who truly Did the Work to Become "Us", before "We" left the world as Bawa Muhayaddeen (Ral.), and is Now "One with" Us, both within Him, and within you, if you like. Amen. Ok". Bawa. All of which is Still Available to All of My Children, that is, to truly Do The Work to Become Him, while "We" are still living in the world, but Now as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), that is, if you will Only truly accept and join as "One with" Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), as such, Now for your age and for all life, that is, as Now the "Presence of God", and the "Word of God" made flesh, for your age and for your life, as Now the "Fire of God" burning in the world. Amen. Ok? Bawa. That is, if the true intention for your life within you, for your soul life, is to again become "One with" God within you, before you die to the flesh in your current state within you, that is, in your current state of living a life of "separation and differences" on the illusory "outside" of you, as if you are "separate from" God within you, as if you are "separate from" your brothers and sisters, and as if you are "separate from: the Creation of God, within God within you, all of which is "Just Not True". Expanded Title No. 01- of Spiritual Chat 443 "Before You "Say or Do or Write" Anything, Join In Partnership With God/Bawa, First On The "Outside" of You And Then Within You, By First Joining In Partnership With Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) on the "Outside" of You, To Let God "Seek Himself" Within Himself, By "Curing Himself of you", Of "you" living as "Separate From" Everything & Everyone, And In This Way, To Let God "Gladly Pull You Ashore", As Himself Living Now as "One with" Everything & Everyone, And in this way, To Let God Gladly "Open Your Inner Heart, Grant You His Grace, And Pull You Back Into Himself", By Passing Judgment On and Offering Salvation To All of The Creation of God, Within God Within You, That is, "If Your Intention Is Praiseworthy", That Is, If You Have Truly Joined In Partnership With God, Within God Within You, To Start To "Make God's Intention Your Search" Within God Within You, If You Have Truly, Joined In Partnership With God, Within God Within You, To Start To "Intend As God Intends", Within God Within You, So In The End, "No Child Be Left Behind", Within God Within You. So In The End, There Will Be Nothing Still "Separating God" From God, Within God Within You. Amen. Ok?" ============================================================== On-line Version - of Spiritual Chat 443, "Without An Outline" MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the Name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum My dearest loving Daughter Muhaiyaddeen Ummul Khair (may God be pleased with You, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Us, and with Him). Amen. Rumismith: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. Wa alaikum as-salamu to you dear Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen. Anbu from Ummul Khair Muhaiyaddeen. Rumismith: Bawa. That was a very beautiful sharing last night. Allahu Akbar, Al hamdu lillah. This evening we played a DVD of Bawa discoursing to Monika, Rosmarie and our brother in law Alfred. Allahu Akbar, Al hamdu lillah. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good, but remember the True Discoursing of Bawa, and Now of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), to Monika, Rosmarie and our brother in law Alfred, is Now "You" discoursing to Monika, Rosmarie and our brother in law Alfred. Bawa. Is Now "You" Talking To Them as Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), First on the "outside" of them and then within them. Bawa. That is, First with "You" as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) on the "outside" of you, and then with "You" as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within you, and then with "You" as Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within you, all of which in truth is "You", if you like, all of which in truth is "You" as the Triple Flame of God, within "Alif, Lam, Mim", within God within you, all of which is the Truth of each of My Children, all of which is the "Oneness" of each of My Children, and of God within you, if you like, and that is for sure. Bawa. All of which in truth is Now "You" and each of My Children, if you like, Demonstrating God within you, and what is "Within God" within you, and what "God is Now Doing" with what is "Within God" within you, to the Creation of God, within God within you, all of which is God Revealing God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God, within God within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, for the benefit of your brothers and sisters, as this child has Now learned to do. Amen. Ok? Bawa. That is, with "You" Now Demonstrating How You Have Truly Changed Your State, because of your being with and truly surrendering to Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), Now within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within you, that is, by your First being with and truly surrendering to Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) Now on the "outside" of you, which in truth is Now the "Presence of God" and the "Word of God" Now for your age and for all life, if you like, First on the "outside" of you and then within you. Amen. Ok? Bawa. That is, with "You" Now Demonstrating How You Have Now Changed Into Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) Now within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), First on the "outside" of you, and then within you, as this child has Now learned to do. Bawa. Not for you to tell "Other People" about the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), or Now for you to tell "Other People" about the life and teaching of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), or for you to play them discourses by Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), or for you to give them books or tapes by Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), all of which in truth will do them "No Good". Bawa. For as "We" taught My Children the following, when "We" were living in the world as Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), And as "We" are Now Again teaching My Children the following, with "Us" Now living in the world as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), That Is Not The Point, if you like, for in truth, "The True Value of the True Guru/Shaikh is the "Presence of God", is the "Word of God" made flesh for your age and for your life, that is, as the "Rain of God's Grace" for your age and for all life. "As the "Rain of God's Grace" that you must take "As It Is Raining", not try to collect this same "Rain of Grace" in a "rain barrel" So "you" can use it later, to water you and water "Other People", as you like". "That is, the True Value of the True Guru/Shaikh is as "He Is Speaking", not later after "He Has Stopped Speaking", like My Children keep trying to do, but to your peril. Bawa. That is, with My Children Now trying to take "My Words" later in some other format then "Me Speaking", like as a book, or as an audio or video tape, Rather then Letting "Me Again Speak Directly to My Children", but Now as One of My Children, but Now as One of My Children who truly "Did What We Told All of My Children To Do", which was to "Become Me", that is, to "Fall Into Me", Before "We" physically left the world. Bawa. For Example, Rather then Letting "Me Again Speak Directly to My Children", but Now as Our Dearest Loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), in whom "We are well Pleased". Bawa. That is, with My Children Now trying to use the "Rain of God's Grace" after the "Rain Has Stopped", but that they have Now stored in a "Rain Barrel", treating the "Rain Barrel Water" as Now the "True Guru/Shaikh Speaking", as Now the "Presence of God", as Now the "Word of God" for your age and for your life, that is, as Now a substitute of equal value for the "True Guru/Shaikh Speaking", Rather than searching for the "True Guru/Shaikh Speaking Again", but this "Rain Barrel" approach to the "True Guru/Shaikh Speaking Directly to His Children" just Won't Work, It Won't Work. Bawa. It Just Won't Work, because after the True Guru/Shaikh has "Stopped Speaking" because He is No Longer "Physically Present" in the world, you must find and accept a New True Guru/Shaikh who is still "Physically Present" in the world, and Start to Sit and Listen To Him, Start to Learn How to "Fall Into Him", that is, How to "Become Him", that is, Start To Learn How "Not To Be There, So God Can Be There", Accepting Him as Now "God's Presence", as Now the "Word of God" for your age and for your life, that is, if You Have Not Now "Become Him". Bawa. And Not Mistakenly Think, as all of My Children are Now Doing, that you can somehow still receive the True Value of the True Guru/Shaikh "Speaking Directly" to His Children, by reading about what the True Guru/Shaikh earlier said, for example, from a book, or by listening to what the True Guru/Shaikh earlier said as a tape recording of the True Guru/Shaikh's Words, all of which in truth is "Just Not True", all of which in truth is just the "Rain of God's Grace" stored within a "Rain Barrel", but Now without the "Power of God" that it contained when "The Rain Is Falling", that is, when the True Guru/Shaikh "Is Speaking Directly To His Children". Bawa. For without that "Power of God" washing across His Children, as the True Guru/Shaikh Speaks Directly To His Children, nothing in the life of His Children can Truly Change. Bawa. For in truth True Change In Your Life is Only One Thing, and that is, "you" Sitting In the "Presence of God" listening to the "Word of God" for your age and for your life, and in this way, with "you" joining in Partnership with God, First on the "outside" of you as your True Guru/Shaikh "Speaking To His Children", and then within you as "True Prayer", as "God Praying To God", as the "Prayer of the One to the One who Is", Letting the "Truth of Your Life" dispel the "falsehood of your life, Letting "Your Wisdom" reason over "your fate", Letting the Qualities of "Your Higher Self" be victorious over the qualities of "your lower self." Bawa. And in this way, and only in this way, with "you" Letting God "Cure Himself of you", that is, with "you" Letting God Cure Himself of "you" Now living as "a person", of "you" Now living as "your parents", of "you" Now living as a "false fellowship", that is, as a "false fellowship" of "like minded people" who come together to talk and talk and talk about Everyone and Everything, including talking about God, talking about the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), and Now talking about the life and teaching of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.). Bawa. But never in truth coming together with God within you to become God within you, that is, never coming together with Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within you to become Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within you, and Now never coming together with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) to become Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.)", First on the "outside" of you and then within you". Bawa. All of which is Now the "Current State" of all of My Children, that is, with My Children Now living as the "Enemy of the soul", all of which in truth is Now each of My Children Keeping Jesus (peace be upon Him) within you, which is your soul, Crucified on His Cross, which is your elemental body, with the 5 nails of "your desire" to live on the illusory "outside" of you and sin. Bawa. That is, with all of My Children continuing to live a life of "separation and differences", of selfishness, of sin, on the illusory "outside" of yourself, because you won't let yourself be "Me", that is, because you wouldn't let yourself be "Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.)", Now within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within you, and Now because you won't let yourself be "Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.)", First on the "outside" of you and then within you, that is, you won't let yourself "Be God". Bawa. So in truth Now all of My Children have become "the satan", that is, all of My Children have Now become the "form and state and life" of "the satan", rather than the "Form and State and Life" of God, because in truth there are Only Two Choices in your life, Not Three Choices. Bawa. That is, Only "God or satan", Not "God, you, and satan", as My Children Still Mistakenly believe, but to your peril, because in truth the "idea of you", the "idea of a person", the "idea of you Now as your parents", the "Idea of your false fellowship" of "like minded people" talking and talking about God, but never becoming God, is "the satan", and this is Now the truth of each of My Children. Amen. Ok? Bawa. And the Choice to Either Accept Or Reject this Truth as Now "The Reality of My Children", is most Certainly your Choice, not God's Choice, and Certainly not "Our Choice. Bawa. That is, that in truth each of My Children is Now the "form and state and life" of "the satan", is Now the "Enemy of the soul", and that in truth Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) is Now "Us" for My Children, that is, that in truth Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) is Now "The Cure" for each of My Children, if you like, that is, is Now the "Presence of God", and the "Word of God" made flesh, is Now the "Fire of God" burning in the world, for your age and for your life. Bawa. All of which is Now most Certainly your Choice, that is, for you to Now Either Accept and Start To Use Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) as such, Or Reject and Continue To Discard Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) as such, not God's Choice, and not "Our Choice", and that is for sure. Bawa. For, "We can only open and then lead you to the Water of God's Grace, but you have to drink of it, that part is yours" Bawa. For in truth Our Dearest Loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), in whom "We are well Pleased", is Now the "Pearl of Wisdom" for your age and for your life, that is, is Now the "Ocean of 'Ilm or Divine Knowledge", that is, is Now the "Water of God's Grace", for your age and for all life, First on the "outside" of you and then within you, and that is for sure, if you like. Rumismith: Bawa. We have to hand the responsibility for that to God and Bawa. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. "We" understand. Bawa. And this is So, Because in truth Bawa, and Now Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) are You, are "Your Higher Self", speaking to "Your Higher Self", trying to awaken "Your Higher Self". Bawa. That is, So "Your Higher Self" which is "Your Wisdom", which is the wisdom surrounding your soul, can "Do Battle" with your "lower self, which are "your desires", which in truth is the "Enemy of your soul", that is, So "Your Wisdom" can "Reason Over" your fate which in truth is your lower self. Bawa. And this is "Who you are", and "Where you are", and "What Is Truly Happening" in your life, My Dearest Loving Daughter Muhaiyaddeen Ummul Khair (Ral.), that is, you are "Your Higher Self", once awakened by the Physical Guru/Shaikh, "Reasoning Over" your "lower self", if you like, not "you" living as "a person", not "you" living as "your lower self" on the illusory" outside of yourself, not you living as a "false fellowship" of "like minded people", who come together to talk and talk and talk, that is, to talk about Everyone and Everything, including to talk about God, but never to become what you talk about, that is, but never to become God. Bawa. And in truth, So is the Truth of Monika, Rosmarie and our brother in law Alfred, they are also their "Higher Self" reasoning over their "lower self", if they like, not them living as "a person", not them living as their "lower self", on the illusory "outside" of themselves, not them living as a "false fellowship" of "like minded people", who come together to talk and talk and talk about Everyone and Everything, but never to become what they talk about, but rather to stay as a hypocrite, saying One thing but Always doing Another. Bawa. And that is the Gift of Bawa, that is, of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), of Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) and Now of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), that is, to offer you another Choice about "who you are", and about "where you are", and about what is "happening in your life", that is, to offer you a New Answer to these questions of life, that is, to the questions that you, and Monika, Rosmarie and our brother in law Alfred, Now think you have already answered, but in truth questions that you have yet to correctly answer. Amen. Ok? Rumismith: Bawa. We don't understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. This is why "We" taught My Children, the following when "We" were living in the world as Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), and that "We" are Now Again teaching My Children, the following, with "Us" Now living in the world as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), "If you want to answer the Question "Who Is God", you have to first answer the Question, "Who Am I", because in truth in answering the First Question "Who Am I", you will have answered the Second Question "Who Is God", because in truth "It Is The Same Question", because in truth "They are One", that is, because in truth "You And God" are One. Amen. Ok? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Do you Understand Now? Rumismith: Bawa. Yes we understand that. Thank you. Allahu akbar, al hamdu lillah. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good. And like last night, have the intention that Monika, Rosmarie and our brother in law Alfred also understand this, and then hand that intention to God, and "Be Done With It", and God will most certainly bring them to that understanding in their lifetime, that is for sure, that is, to whatever level they will let God bring them to that understanding. Amen. Ok? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Anything else, or is this enough for tonight? Rumismith: Bawa. This is enough. We have not received the promised IM from Tuesday night. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes, "We" will sent it out right away. Bawa has "Us" working on it, but "We" will send what is Now Available. Amen. Ok? Rumismith: Bawa. Thank you. Allahu Akbar Al hamdu lillah. We have to close down now and open up again tomorrow. Good night and anbu from Ummul Khair Muhaiyaddeen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Your welcome. Amen. Anbu. Expanded Title No. 02 - of Spiritual Chat 443 You Must Sit In The "Presence of God" And Let God Cure Himself of "you", You Must Hear The "Word of God" As It Comes Directly From God, Like The Rain As It Is Falling From The Sky, To Truly Benefit From The Life and Teaching of God For Your Age, To Truly Move Forward On The Path of God, All of Which In Truth Is You Letting Jesus (peace be upon Him) Off of His Cross, Is You Dying Now To Your Current Life of Impurity So Jesus (A.S.), Your Soul, Can Again Live A Life of Purity, Again As The "Triple Flame", But this Time within you, And Realize Allah. Not Ask People To Sit In "Your Presence" And Listen To "Your Words" of "Separation From", Or Even Listen To The "Word of God" For Your Age That Has Been Stored In Books or On Electronic Gadgets So It Can Be Used Later Over and Over Again, As You Like, All of Which in Truth Is Just An Act of Arrogance, Karma, and Illusion, Is Just Your Act as the "Triple Dirt". 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Bawa The On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (Recommended way to Navigate around Library) Spiritual Chat 443 -------- "On-line Version" ------ About Spiritual Chat 443 - Without An Outline - (as a Separate Web Page) Title of Spiritual Chat: --- Go To "On-line Version" (Without An Outline) Answering The Question "Who Am I", Is Answering the Question "Who Is God", Because In Truth They Are The "Same Question", Because In Truth, We Are One, If You Like, God and Man Are One, If You Like And: You Must Sit In The "Presence of God" And Let God Cure Himself of "you", And Let God Cure Himself of "your presence" of you living as if you are "separate from" God, as if you are "separate from" your brothers and sisters, and as if you are "separate from" the Creation of God, within God within you. And: You Must Hear The "Word of God" As It Comes Directly From God, Like The Rain As It Is Falling From The Sky, To Truly Benefit From The Life and Teaching of God For Your Age, Not force the Creation of God to sit in "your presence" and listen to "your words" coming directly from "your arrogance, karma, and illusion". coming directly from "your mind and desire". Date of Chat: August 07, 2008 Chat Between: Muhaiyaddeen Ummul Khair (Ral.) and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) 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Please come back later. Thank you - ============================================================== Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 443 Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. Wa 'alaykum al-salam wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu), My Dearest Loving Children - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Us, and with Him). About Spiritual Chat 443 Bawa. Here is Page 1 of 1 of the "Without An Outline" Version of the On-line Version of "Spiritual Chat 443", that is, of another beautiful Spiritual Chat between Our Dearest Loving Daughter Muhaiyaddeen Ummul Khair (Ral.) and Our Dearest Loving Son Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) for your reading, and hopefully for your sharing enjoyment. Bawa. To read a longer Outline & Summary Version of the same Spiritual Chat, that is, of "Spiritual Chat 443", one with an Outline and with a Summary of some Outline Topics, please click HERE, or above in the "Main Go To Menu", that is, Click on "With An Outline" under, Go To On-line Version. Thank you . Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen. Bawa. We have Also given this Sharing the following "Expanded Title", to better reflect the multiple focus of this sharing, at the feet of God for your age, First on the "outside" of you and then within you, all of which in truth is Now at the feet of your dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), within you, that is, Now within you as God/Bawa within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within you. Bawa. And now on the "outside" of you, as the feet of His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), that is, of His Children who have Now in truth "Become Him", which in truth is each of My Children living in this age, if you like, that is, if you truly Did The Work to Become Him, while "We" were still living in the world as Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.). Bawa. For Example, all of which is Now Our Dearest Loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), First on the "outside" of you and then within you, that is, As an Example of One who truly Did the Work to Become "Us", before "We" left the world as Bawa Muhayaddeen (Ral.), and is Now "One with" Us, both within Him, and within you, if you like. Amen. Ok". Bawa. All of which is Still Available to All of My Children, that is, to truly Do The Work to Become Him, while "We" are still living in the world, but Now as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), that is, if you will Only truly accept and join as "One with" Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), as such, Now for your age and for all life, that is, as Now the "Presence of God", and the "Word of God" made flesh, for your age and for your life, as Now the "Fire of God" burning in the world. Amen. Ok? Bawa. That is, if the true intention for your life within you, for your soul life, is to again become "One with" God within you, before you die to the flesh in your current state within you, that is, in your current state of living a life of "separation and differences" on the illusory "outside" of you, as if you are "separate from" God within you, as if you are "separate from" your brothers and sisters, and as if you are "separate from: the Creation of God, within God within you, all of which is "Just Not True". Expanded Title No. 01- of Spiritual Chat 443 "Before You "Say or Do or Write" Anything, Join In Partnership With God/Bawa, First On The "Outside" of You And Then Within You, By First Joining In Partnership With Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) on the "Outside" of You, To Let God "Seek Himself" Within Himself, By "Curing Himself of you", Of "you" living as "Separate From" Everything & Everyone, And In This Way, To Let God "Gladly Pull You Ashore", As Himself Living Now as "One with" Everything & Everyone, And in this way, To Let God Gladly "Open Your Inner Heart, Grant You His Grace, And Pull You Back Into Himself", By Passing Judgment On and Offering Salvation To All of The Creation of God, Within God Within You, That is, "If Your Intention Is Praiseworthy", That Is, If You Have Truly Joined In Partnership With God, Within God Within You, To Start To "Make God's Intention Your Search" Within God Within You, If You Have Truly, Joined In Partnership With God, Within God Within You, To Start To "Intend As God Intends", Within God Within You, So In The End, "No Child Be Left Behind", Within God Within You. So In The End, There Will Be Nothing Still "Separating God" From God, Within God Within You. Amen. Ok?" ============================================================== On-line Version - of Spiritual Chat 443, "Without An Outline" MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the Name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum My dearest loving Daughter Muhaiyaddeen Ummul Khair (may God be pleased with You, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Us, and with Him). Amen. Rumismith: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. Wa alaikum as-salamu to you dear Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen. Anbu from Ummul Khair Muhaiyaddeen. Rumismith: Bawa. That was a very beautiful sharing last night. Allahu Akbar, Al hamdu lillah. This evening we played a DVD of Bawa discoursing to Monika, Rosmarie and our brother in law Alfred. Allahu Akbar, Al hamdu lillah. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good, but remember the True Discoursing of Bawa, and Now of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), to Monika, Rosmarie and our brother in law Alfred, is Now "You" discoursing to Monika, Rosmarie and our brother in law Alfred. Bawa. Is Now "You" Talking To Them as Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), First on the "outside" of them and then within them. Bawa. That is, First with "You" as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) on the "outside" of you, and then with "You" as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within you, and then with "You" as Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within you, all of which in truth is "You", if you like, all of which in truth is "You" as the Triple Flame of God, within "Alif, Lam, Mim", within God within you, all of which is the Truth of each of My Children, all of which is the "Oneness" of each of My Children, and of God within you, if you like, and that is for sure. Bawa. All of which in truth is Now "You" and each of My Children, if you like, Demonstrating God within you, and what is "Within God" within you, and what "God is Now Doing" with what is "Within God" within you, to the Creation of God, within God within you, all of which is God Revealing God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God, within God within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, for the benefit of your brothers and sisters, as this child has Now learned to do. Amen. Ok? Bawa. That is, with "You" Now Demonstrating How You Have Truly Changed Your State, because of your being with and truly surrendering to Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), Now within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within you, that is, by your First being with and truly surrendering to Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) Now on the "outside" of you, which in truth is Now the "Presence of God" and the "Word of God" Now for your age and for all life, if you like, First on the "outside" of you and then within you. Amen. Ok? Bawa. That is, with "You" Now Demonstrating How You Have Now Changed Into Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) Now within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), First on the "outside" of you, and then within you, as this child has Now learned to do. Bawa. Not for you to tell "Other People" about the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), or Now for you to tell "Other People" about the life and teaching of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), or for you to play them discourses by Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), or for you to give them books or tapes by Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), all of which in truth will do them "No Good". Bawa. For as "We" taught My Children the following, when "We" were living in the world as Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), And as "We" are Now Again teaching My Children the following, with "Us" Now living in the world as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), That Is Not The Point, if you like, for in truth, "The True Value of the True Guru/Shaikh is the "Presence of God", is the "Word of God" made flesh for your age and for your life, that is, as the "Rain of God's Grace" for your age and for all life. "As the "Rain of God's Grace" that you must take "As It Is Raining", not try to collect this same "Rain of Grace" in a "rain barrel" So "you" can use it later, to water you and water "Other People", as you like". "That is, the True Value of the True Guru/Shaikh is as "He Is Speaking", not later after "He Has Stopped Speaking", like My Children keep trying to do, but to your peril. Bawa. That is, with My Children Now trying to take "My Words" later in some other format then "Me Speaking", like as a book, or as an audio or video tape, Rather then Letting "Me Again Speak Directly to My Children", but Now as One of My Children, but Now as One of My Children who truly "Did What We Told All of My Children To Do", which was to "Become Me", that is, to "Fall Into Me", Before "We" physically left the world. Bawa. For Example, Rather then Letting "Me Again Speak Directly to My Children", but Now as Our Dearest Loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), in whom "We are well Pleased". Bawa. That is, with My Children Now trying to use the "Rain of God's Grace" after the "Rain Has Stopped", but that they have Now stored in a "Rain Barrel", treating the "Rain Barrel Water" as Now the "True Guru/Shaikh Speaking", as Now the "Presence of God", as Now the "Word of God" for your age and for your life, that is, as Now a substitute of equal value for the "True Guru/Shaikh Speaking", Rather than searching for the "True Guru/Shaikh Speaking Again", but this "Rain Barrel" approach to the "True Guru/Shaikh Speaking Directly to His Children" just Won't Work, It Won't Work. Bawa. It Just Won't Work, because after the True Guru/Shaikh has "Stopped Speaking" because He is No Longer "Physically Present" in the world, you must find and accept a New True Guru/Shaikh who is still "Physically Present" in the world, and Start to Sit and Listen To Him, Start to Learn How to "Fall Into Him", that is, How to "Become Him", that is, Start To Learn How "Not To Be There, So God Can Be There", Accepting Him as Now "God's Presence", as Now the "Word of God" for your age and for your life, that is, if You Have Not Now "Become Him". Bawa. And Not Mistakenly Think, as all of My Children are Now Doing, that you can somehow still receive the True Value of the True Guru/Shaikh "Speaking Directly" to His Children, by reading about what the True Guru/Shaikh earlier said, for example, from a book, or by listening to what the True Guru/Shaikh earlier said as a tape recording of the True Guru/Shaikh's Words, all of which in truth is "Just Not True", all of which in truth is just the "Rain of God's Grace" stored within a "Rain Barrel", but Now without the "Power of God" that it contained when "The Rain Is Falling", that is, when the True Guru/Shaikh "Is Speaking Directly To His Children". Bawa. For without that "Power of God" washing across His Children, as the True Guru/Shaikh Speaks Directly To His Children, nothing in the life of His Children can Truly Change. Bawa. For in truth True Change In Your Life is Only One Thing, and that is, "you" Sitting In the "Presence of God" listening to the "Word of God" for your age and for your life, and in this way, with "you" joining in Partnership with God, First on the "outside" of you as your True Guru/Shaikh "Speaking To His Children", and then within you as "True Prayer", as "God Praying To God", as the "Prayer of the One to the One who Is", Letting the "Truth of Your Life" dispel the "falsehood of your life, Letting "Your Wisdom" reason over "your fate", Letting the Qualities of "Your Higher Self" be victorious over the qualities of "your lower self." Bawa. And in this way, and only in this way, with "you" Letting God "Cure Himself of you", that is, with "you" Letting God Cure Himself of "you" Now living as "a person", of "you" Now living as "your parents", of "you" Now living as a "false fellowship", that is, as a "false fellowship" of "like minded people" who come together to talk and talk and talk about Everyone and Everything, including talking about God, talking about the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), and Now talking about the life and teaching of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.). Bawa. But never in truth coming together with God within you to become God within you, that is, never coming together with Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within you to become Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within you, and Now never coming together with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) to become Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.)", First on the "outside" of you and then within you". Bawa. All of which is Now the "Current State" of all of My Children, that is, with My Children Now living as the "Enemy of the soul", all of which in truth is Now each of My Children Keeping Jesus (peace be upon Him) within you, which is your soul, Crucified on His Cross, which is your elemental body, with the 5 nails of "your desire" to live on the illusory "outside" of you and sin. Bawa. That is, with all of My Children continuing to live a life of "separation and differences", of selfishness, of sin, on the illusory "outside" of yourself, because you won't let yourself be "Me", that is, because you wouldn't let yourself be "Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.)", Now within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) within you, and Now because you won't let yourself be "Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.)", First on the "outside" of you and then within you, that is, you won't let yourself "Be God". Bawa. So in truth Now all of My Children have become "the satan", that is, all of My Children have Now become the "form and state and life" of "the satan", rather than the "Form and State and Life" of God, because in truth there are Only Two Choices in your life, Not Three Choices. Bawa. That is, Only "God or satan", Not "God, you, and satan", as My Children Still Mistakenly believe, but to your peril, because in truth the "idea of you", the "idea of a person", the "idea of you Now as your parents", the "Idea of your false fellowship" of "like minded people" talking and talking about God, but never becoming God, is "the satan", and this is Now the truth of each of My Children. Amen. Ok? Bawa. And the Choice to Either Accept Or Reject this Truth as Now "The Reality of My Children", is most Certainly your Choice, not God's Choice, and Certainly not "Our Choice. Bawa. That is, that in truth each of My Children is Now the "form and state and life" of "the satan", is Now the "Enemy of the soul", and that in truth Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) is Now "Us" for My Children, that is, that in truth Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) is Now "The Cure" for each of My Children, if you like, that is, is Now the "Presence of God", and the "Word of God" made flesh, is Now the "Fire of God" burning in the world, for your age and for your life. Bawa. All of which is Now most Certainly your Choice, that is, for you to Now Either Accept and Start To Use Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) as such, Or Reject and Continue To Discard Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) as such, not God's Choice, and not "Our Choice", and that is for sure. Bawa. For, "We can only open and then lead you to the Water of God's Grace, but you have to drink of it, that part is yours" Bawa. For in truth Our Dearest Loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), in whom "We are well Pleased", is Now the "Pearl of Wisdom" for your age and for your life, that is, is Now the "Ocean of 'Ilm or Divine Knowledge", that is, is Now the "Water of God's Grace", for your age and for all life, First on the "outside" of you and then within you, and that is for sure, if you like. Rumismith: Bawa. We have to hand the responsibility for that to God and Bawa. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. "We" understand. Bawa. And this is So, Because in truth Bawa, and Now Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) are You, are "Your Higher Self", speaking to "Your Higher Self", trying to awaken "Your Higher Self". Bawa. That is, So "Your Higher Self" which is "Your Wisdom", which is the wisdom surrounding your soul, can "Do Battle" with your "lower self, which are "your desires", which in truth is the "Enemy of your soul", that is, So "Your Wisdom" can "Reason Over" your fate which in truth is your lower self. Bawa. And this is "Who you are", and "Where you are", and "What Is Truly Happening" in your life, My Dearest Loving Daughter Muhaiyaddeen Ummul Khair (Ral.), that is, you are "Your Higher Self", once awakened by the Physical Guru/Shaikh, "Reasoning Over" your "lower self", if you like, not "you" living as "a person", not "you" living as "your lower self" on the illusory" outside of yourself, not you living as a "false fellowship" of "like minded people", who come together to talk and talk and talk, that is, to talk about Everyone and Everything, including to talk about God, but never to become what you talk about, that is, but never to become God. Bawa. And in truth, So is the Truth of Monika, Rosmarie and our brother in law Alfred, they are also their "Higher Self" reasoning over their "lower self", if they like, not them living as "a person", not them living as their "lower self", on the illusory "outside" of themselves, not them living as a "false fellowship" of "like minded people", who come together to talk and talk and talk about Everyone and Everything, but never to become what they talk about, but rather to stay as a hypocrite, saying One thing but Always doing Another. Bawa. And that is the Gift of Bawa, that is, of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), of Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) and Now of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), that is, to offer you another Choice about "who you are", and about "where you are", and about what is "happening in your life", that is, to offer you a New Answer to these questions of life, that is, to the questions that you, and Monika, Rosmarie and our brother in law Alfred, Now think you have already answered, but in truth questions that you have yet to correctly answer. Amen. Ok? Rumismith: Bawa. We don't understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. This is why "We" taught My Children, the following when "We" were living in the world as Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), and that "We" are Now Again teaching My Children, the following, with "Us" Now living in the world as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), "If you want to answer the Question "Who Is God", you have to first answer the Question, "Who Am I", because in truth in answering the First Question "Who Am I", you will have answered the Second Question "Who Is God", because in truth "It Is The Same Question", because in truth "They are One", that is, because in truth "You And God" are One. Amen. Ok? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Do you Understand Now? Rumismith: Bawa. Yes we understand that. Thank you. Allahu akbar, al hamdu lillah. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good. And like last night, have the intention that Monika, Rosmarie and our brother in law Alfred also understand this, and then hand that intention to God, and "Be Done With It", and God will most certainly bring them to that understanding in their lifetime, that is for sure, that is, to whatever level they will let God bring them to that understanding. Amen. Ok? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Anything else, or is this enough for tonight? Rumismith: Bawa. This is enough. We have not received the promised IM from Tuesday night. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes, "We" will sent it out right away. Bawa has "Us" working on it, but "We" will send what is Now Available. Amen. Ok? Rumismith: Bawa. Thank you. Allahu Akbar Al hamdu lillah. We have to close down now and open up again tomorrow. Good night and anbu from Ummul Khair Muhaiyaddeen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Your welcome. Amen. Anbu. Expanded Title No. 02 - of Spiritual Chat 443 You Must Sit In The "Presence of God" And Let God Cure Himself of "you", You Must Hear The "Word of God" As It Comes Directly From God, Like The Rain As It Is Falling From The Sky, To Truly Benefit From The Life and Teaching of God For Your Age, To Truly Move Forward On The Path of God, All of Which In Truth Is You Letting Jesus (peace be upon Him) Off of His Cross, Is You Dying Now To Your Current Life of Impurity So Jesus (A.S.), Your Soul, Can Again Live A Life of Purity, Again As The "Triple Flame", But this Time within you, And Realize Allah. Not Ask People To Sit In "Your Presence" And Listen To "Your Words" of "Separation From", Or Even Listen To The "Word of God" For Your Age That Has Been Stored In Books or On Electronic Gadgets So It Can Be Used Later Over and Over Again, As You Like, All of Which in Truth Is Just An Act of Arrogance, Karma, and Illusion, Is Just Your Act as the "Triple Dirt". 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